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Som der står i artiklen er det ikke første gang dette er sket. For ikke så lang tid siden blev en anden russisk dame vist skudt, ligeledes i Jomtien.(vist med reference til røveri)

Er der nogen der ved hvad der foregår! Er det tilbagevende russiske glædespiger det drejer sig om eller hvad pokker sker der! Det virker underligt, at de kun har været der ca. 2 uger og allerede har skaffet sig så ubehagelige fjender! Hvad laver de russere af julenumre dernede!

Nogen der har et bud på ovenstående?

/Ding-Dong

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Jeg mener russere generelt er et ubehøvlet folkefærd, så de har nok selv haft skyld i deres skæbnen.

Good for Falang

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Vi oplevede Russere i december md i lufthavnen i Bangkok,en flok [UPASSENDE ORD]er ganske enkelt,vi have mødt nogle også i Pattaya nogle dage tidligere,knægten og min kæreste rystede på hovdet af dem og deres opførelse de teer sig som de ejer hele verden.de hører hjemme på Strandvænget i Nyborg,nå den var vist lige grov nok

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Hej Good for Falang & stoney

Ja, russere kan være ubehøvlede, men ligefrem at skyde alle der er ubehøvlede! Hmm.!

Nu virker det jo ikke ligefrem som om de to damer ejede hele verden, det virker som jeg nu kan læse på forsiden af DTW mere som om de lå med stængerne i vejet og prøvede at tjene til dagen og vejen.

Er der nogen herinde der ved hvad der foregår i de russiske kredse dernede. Snuppet de kunder fra uheldige steder, eller stjæler de fra kunderne? Jeg er ski lidt nysgerrig, da jeg jo selv har set russerdamer tøffe rundt dernede.

Er det i øvrigt thailændere der står bag importen af russerpiger eller er det egen import?

/Ding-Dong

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Hej dsd,

Tak for info!

Hmm. Ja man kunne være tilbøjelig til at tro det er i den retning artiklen peger. Men attentatmanden virker på mig som thai! Anvender russerne thailandske lakajer? Eller slår de etablerede steder tilbage?

Koreanske interesser kender jeg ikke. Kun dem der opsøger ”pludselig opstående og tilbagevende” cherrygirls. Men de holder sig nok også mere til de lidt mere lukkede lokaliteter uden for mange læsbare bogstaver på døren.

/Ding-Dong

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Jeg har også oplevet russere i Pattaya og Jomtien, de er meget ubehagelige, og de fleste Thaier vil ikke have noget med dem at gøre. Ved også at de har etableret sig flere steder i området med bodeller og natklubber, hvor der kommer mange Thaimænd, så det kommer ikke bag på mig at der må komme nogle opgør om penge magt etc.

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pengenes magt er stor, så selv i thailand vil den russiske mafia også gerne have en del af kagen.

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vil de ikke ha penge i alt lige som alle andre mafia folk.Men det er nu trist at høre nogen blive skudt lige meget hvem hvad eller hvor de er fra

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damm det bliver jo mere og mere underligt

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Mon ikke der er noget thai/russian mafia indblandet.

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Russian Ladies Mystery

Killer of Russian Women Caught

On the 2nd March, the murderer of the two young Russian women shot dead on Jomtien Beach on the 24th February has finally been caught and confessed. This curious case has caused a number of twists and turns that has even come under the scrutiny of the international press as to what happened and who shot the women.

There are still many unanswered questions especially regarding the motive and a possible accomplice and at the time of Pattaya People going to print, the police are still searching for the gun.

To recap: on the 24th of February at 6.00am Dongtan Police were called to the scene of a double murder on Jomtien Beach opposite Soi 18.

Police rushed to the scene along with Rescue Volunteers and found two brutally slain Russian lady tourists named Miss Liubov Svirkova aged 25 and Miss Tatiana Tsimfer aged 30, slumped on two beach chairs. They had been ruthlessly shot dead by someone using a 9mm gun.

Police found a mobile phone, a bottle of whisky, a pack of cigarettes and a bag containing clothes and passports belonging to the women, all untouched on the table in front of the bodies.

Police discovered foot prints in the sand around the beach chairs which may have come from the assailant’s combat boots; they also found four bullet shells.

A security guard of the Anantaya Hotel, Jomtien, Khun Somsak Noonoi, told Police that at 3.00 am he was on duty and noticed the two women leaving the Dragon Beach Resort only 500 meters away from the murder scene. The ladies apparently liked to go swimming and then watch the dawn arrive whilst having a drink on the beach.

At approximately 5.00am he heard a gun shot and bravely headed towards the area of the blast. Whilst running to the scene he heard three more shots fired.

He spotted a man who was walking calmly from the scene and simply jumped on a motorbike and drove towards the Chaiyapruek Police box on Jomtien Beach
Road.

The two holiday makers arrived in Pattaya on the 16th of February on a Package Tour along with fifty fellow Russians tourists and they were due to fly back to Russia on the 3rd March.

On the night of the murder the women enjoyed a night out in Walking Street and returned to their hotel. They left the hotel early in the morning to sit and relax and watch the dawn arrive.

A tour guide of the tour company told Police that after picking them up at the airport, the two women wanted privacy and did not want to join their fellow Russian Tourists.

On the 25th of February, Police Lieutenant General Assawin Kwanmaung, Commissioner of Provincial Police Region 2 met with Mr. Vladimere Provin, Head of the Russian Consulate in Thailand to investigate the calculated murder of the two unfortunate women in Jomtien.

At the meeting, footage from a local security camera located near the scene of the murder was shown and carefully analysed.
Police Lieutenant General Assawin revealed that footage shows the suspect to be a tall man around 185 cm (6 foot).

On the 27th February, Police Lieutenant General Assawin held a Press conference to announce any progress in the case.

He said that all the available evidence had been collected, but the offender could not be identified.

To assist the investigations Khun Sommart Srimajan, Champion of Motorbike Fan Club (Fan Pan Tae TV Show), was invited to try and identify the motorbike on the security camera tape, he advised the police that it appeared to be a Honda Wave.

On the 27th of February at City Hall, a number of motorbike taxi riders in and around Pattaya met the Superintendent of Pattaya Police Station Police Colonel Sutin Suppaung and Deputy Mayor Ronnakit Aegasing, regarding the murders.

Police gave a description of the offender to all the riders and advised any rider that provided taxi services to the two Russian ladies before or on the day of the murder to come forward as they could provide important information for this investigation. They were advised to speak with the Police at Pattaya Police Station and names would be kept secret.

The male tour guide was even under investigation. The guide, who disappeared after the murders, had reportedly taken the two women to visit bars and nightclubs every night.
As nothing was taken from the women, police ruled out robbery as a possible motive for the killings.

It is deemed unlikely
that the two Russians were involved in prostitution or other criminal activities in Pattaya.
It is also believed, with information received from an anonymous phone call that the suspect could be a Russian man who may still be living on Koh Larn. Further investigations are required to clarify if this person was involved in the murder.

Police acknowledged finding a set of shoe prints in the sand belonging to the Timberland brand.

They also confirmed that before the shooting, a person who wore a green motorbike taxi waistcoat was seen parking a red and black motorbike near the scene of the crime.

Police now confirm they have interviewed two eye witnesses to the murders. They have given a description of the assailant and have created a photo fit image which was circulated with a reward in an attempt to apprehend the killer.

On 1st March in the temporary command centre in the Anantaya Resort, which is located opposite the crime scene, reporters got further details of this mysterious case.
From the evidence, Police Lieutenant General Assawin stated that he believes that this case has nothing to do with prostitution. He also believes that the gunman is not a foreigner “he must be definitely a Thai man – I am 100 percent sure about this and I am sure that he is still hiding in Pattaya and didn’t leave the city. As for the cause of the murder, I see it is important to keep it confidential for now because it might make his capture harder than how it’s supposed to be”.

Pattaya Police and City Hall have now increased the reward to anybody providing information leading to the arrest of the assailant to 500,000 baht.
Then another twist, as on 1st of March a man who has similar looks to the sketch of the murderer went to see the officials investigating the murder case at the command centre to explain that he had nothing to do with the case.

At first the sketch came from the unclear surveillance camera recorded from the crime scene. The images were blurred so the police had to take it to the laboratory. There they got a 30 percent clearer image from the high technology they used. They then tried to match it with pictures of people who have records at the police station.

Somehow, that sketch matched one man: Mr. Kritsana Duangphiboon, aged 21, so that made him a prime suspect. Mr. Kritsana had a record at the police station for careless driving.

Mr. Kritsana told reporters that he was surprised when he saw his face as the murderer’s sketch all around Thailand through the news as: ‘Wanted for 500,000 Baht’. He stated that he has never committed any serious crime in his life. When he saw himself wanted for such a high sum of cash, he discussed the matter with his mother and she took him to talk to the police and let them investigate to prove his innocence to the public.

After 3 hours of intense investigating, the police stated that they found no evidence that Mr. Kritsana is the murderer so they had to let him go.

However, Mr. Kritsana also gave some very helpful information to the police that might have something to do with this case.

From Mr. Kritsana’s statement, it led the police team to another suspect. At approximately 3.00 pm on 1st March, the police went to inspect Soi Wat Tham 4 Temple, where surprisingly they found the red-black Honda Wave motorbike that they were looking for. Miss Nonglak Sudta, aged 21, a staff worker of Hollywood discotheque, South Pattaya, was in possession of the motorbike.

She told the police that this motorbike belongs to her boyfriend, Anuchit Lamlert, aged 24, and he left it with her but never contacted her since that day.

Miss Nonglak was invited to the temporary command centre in Anantaya Resort straight away where she stated that she had been with Anuchit for about 2 months but never knew that Anuchit is a member of a “snatch and grab gang” because he never told her anything personal about himself.

As for his behavior; he usually went out at night with his friends. She only knows that he usually stays around Khao Mai Kaew area.

After getting all this information, the police quickly set a team of officers to inspect Khao Mai Kaew area to find Anuchit.

This investigation took all day and night until the 2nd of March when Anuchit was finally arrested and questioned until he confessed that he was the person who killed the Russian women with the motive of wanting to rob them. However, the police still don’t believe Anuchit’s statement and are still investigating further.

Later the police questioned about the gun that was used for the killing. At first Anuchit stated that after he shot the ladies, he fled in the Chaiyapruek’s direction and as he passed Ban Suan Lalana village, he threw the gun into the bushes.

Soon after the police team searched the bushes with difficulty but didn’t succeed in finding the gun. They then questioned Anuchit again. This pushed him to tell the police that after he shot the women, he sold the gun to a friend. Therefore, the police went to the ‘friend’ to seize the gun as evidence. Fortunately, they found the gun in question and now it needs to be inspected carefully to see if it matches the bullet wounds or not.

At the moment the police still don’t believe all of Anuchit’s statements and are trying hard to investigate the truth behind this positively mysterious case. The police want to make sure that Anuchit wasn’t set-up and the police want the true killer.

The police told reporters that they would need 2 days more to investigate until the case is cleared with evidence and a Press conference should be held on Saturday the 3rd of March.

President of Pattaya Tourism and Hotel Association, Khun Thanet Supornsahas-rungsi, said after this terrible event, many Russian tourists have left the Kingdom early out of fear of their safety.

Furthermore, a large number of reservations from Russian tourist groups have been cancelled.
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Det er 100% bestillingsarbejde det der. Enten har han taget fejl af kvinderne, og har slaaet de forkerte ihjel, eller ogsaa passer kvindernes historie ikke. Man skyder ikke folk for at roeve dem, der skal meget til at goere en mand til morder, frem for en roever. Jeg tror heller ikke paa, at han "tilfaeldigvis" er kommet fordi en ret saa tom strand, med en pistol, for at begaa et roeveri.

Min teori er stadig, at den organiserede "mafia" der sidder paa meget prustition i Thailand, har foelt sig truet over evt. russisk konkurrence, og har betalt for likvideringen for at statuere et eksempel. Om pigerne saa har vaeret ludere eller ej, aner jeg intet om, men igen, de kan heller ikke saa godt fortaelle venner og familie, at nu tager de ned for at vaere ludere

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Man skal ikke bevæge sig ret længe på Walking Street her i byen for at spotte de russiske piger/prostituerede. De er en tydelig del af gadebilledet når de vandrer 2 og 2 op og ned ad gaden i søgen efter kontakt, hvilket som regel opnås efter 2. tur. I 98% af tilfældene er det mænd af arabisk herkomst, som regel 2 mand eller flere om hver pige.
Fruen og jeg tager jævnligt ind og spiser en god middag og nyder så og sidde på en af de mere stille barer og "studere" folkelivets mange aspekter. Så ingen tvivl om hvad de piger kommer for.
De 2 dræbte så vi så sent som lørdag den 17. og i kontakt med kunder. Der er ingen tvivl i mit sind at de politi/volunteers der er på walkingstreet har set dem - mange gange. men jeg tror de holder kortene tæt til kroppen.
Det er jo ikke mere end et år siden de kørte heftige raciaer på netop russerpiger, billeder i avisen og TV, dagen efter var pigerne på gaden igen. Politifolkene lignede trætte hankatte efter en nat i kløerne på en flok brunstige hunner. Hvorfor mon så hurtigt på gaden. En af pigerne udtalte til pressen: "Hvorfor må thaipigerne samle kunder op når vi ikke må"? Tyder på kort skolegang hjemme i Sibirien. Der er jo en bar med gogo piger udelukkende russiskse, der optræder piger i et vindue ud til gaden, der er altid stuvende fyldt med fotograferende landsmænd eller japanere. Politiet har aldrig travlt med at komme forbi på deres patrulje. Hvem mon har givet disse piger opholds og workpermit???
Politiet udtaler til pressen af de har russiske mafiafolk inde til forhør, hvorfor h...... sender de dem ikke hjem med en blacklisting på ryggen?????? Jo der er meget man ikke forstår her ude - og måske godt det samme.

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folk med forstand på rusland siger at en hotel telefonreceptionist aldrig ville få råd til at rejse til thailand

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Hmm. Skal vist lige gentage denne historie for mig selv. Jeg er nok lidt langsomopfattende.

- Mand kommer kørende på motorcykel.
- Han synes han ser noget der kan stjæles.
- Stopper motorcykel og går hen mod nogle piger.
- Den ene pige ser manden og råber forskrækket op.
- Manden har endnu ikke gjort noget forkert men….
- Pumper 10 kugler ind i pigerne!!
- Manden går stille og roligt tilbage til motorcykel, uden tilsyneladende at stjæle noget.

Hmm, ifølge dette kunne han jo egentlig bare have smilet og prøve at tigge lidt blegfed fi...e, men vælger at skyde dem ned. Gad vide om han blev afvist!

Nå, historien må vist være alternativ logik for viderekomne, ellers passer denne udlægning vist ikke helt med sandheden. I øvrigt meget heldigt han var godt bevæbnet. Man skal ikke finde sig i piger der råber op. Men gad vide om han ikke inderst inde, fik stjålet præcis hvad han var ude efter!!

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Two more held for murder of Russians

By Jerdsak saengthongcharoen
Police have arrested two more suspects in connection with the murder of two Russian women in Pattaya city, Chon Buri, and are investigating whether the men were members of any transnational criminal organisation.

According to Pattaya police chief Suthin Sappuang, police yesterday arrested Monthol Boonmee, 30, and Tinakorn Meeklee, 21.

Both are residents of Bang Lamung district of the eastern province.

Monthol is the owner of the motorcycle that Anuchit Lamlert, the 24-year-old suspected gunman, used to approach Tatiana Tsimfer, 30, and Liubov Svirkova, 25, on Jomtien beach where he killed them on Feb 24. Tinakorn is suspected of hiding Anuchit's pistol after the killing.

Police plan to charge Monthol and Tinakorn for abetting the crime because they were well aware of Anuchit's robbery record and plans. Pol Col Suthin said that it was still not clear who had masterminded the murders.

Pol Lt-Gen Asawin Khwanmuang, chief of Provincial Police Bureau 2 that supervises the East, said that police were checking the backgrounds of the murder victims who came from Moscow.

He said police were fed a lot of information through the Russian consulate in Thailand, and a Russian witness had said that one of the murdered women had had a conflict with her husband before she left for her relaxation trip to Thailand.

However, Anuchit, who was arrested on Thursday, said during a re-enactment of the crime yesterday that he had acted alone.

He said he only wanted to rob them but as they had seen his face while he was approaching them, he decided to kill them and flee without taking any of their belongings.

He said if he had been a hitman, he would not have done that alone.

[url]www.bangkokpost.com/topstories/topstories.php?id=117210[/url]

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Reconstruction of the Russian murder


Reconstruction of the Russian double murder, suspect returns to scene of crime
Amongst the crowds, were more than 100 police officers, lots of media personnel, and of course, the suspect, Mr. Anuchit Lumlert, he was still wearing hand-cuffs and police had instructed him to re-trace his footsteps of the morning of the double murder, 24th Feb, 5.30 am.
Day 8 Sunday morning ( 4th March)

9.00 am. Jomtien beach, South Pattaya City, a very popular cosmopolitan destination. The young Thai suspect was very co-operative and seemed remarkably relaxed. The crime scene was prepared, with two local ladies acting as the victims. With camera’s rolling, the suspect re-enacted his alleged offence. Although the actual crime took no more than 9 seconds, today’s performance lasted one hour.

The action started on Jomtien beach road, on the left lane, 100 meters before the crime scene, then the killer drove past the victims, who were sitting on the deck chairs, facing north, he approached slowly and continued past them for about 100 meters, then he made a u-turn and parked the bike. He looked over to the table and saw two pairs of shorts on a chair, which he thought were the personal bags of the victims, so he pulled out the gun and quickly walked behind the victims, wielding his gun intending to rob them, but, the victim who was sitting nearest the sea, turned suddenly and started to shout when she saw the gunman. He then fired one shot at her in the back, which caused the second victim to scream out loud, so he then proceeded to shoot her, firing randomly 5 more times, at both of them.

He quickly ran away and jumped on the motorbike and sped to his girlfriend’s place, in Soi Wat-tahm 4. He told her what he had done and then went to sleep! His girlfriend went to work the following evening, at Hollywood Disco, meanwhile he returned the motorbike to his friend, Mr. Monton Boonmee(30) residing at house no. 109/97 Moo .13 Nongpreu, Banglamung. He also asked him to contact Mr. Tinnagorn Meeglee (21) his close friend to sell the gun for him, for 10,000 baht. They had a meeting in front of Nongprue temple, but Tinnagorn had only 900 baht! he grabbed the money and went to lay low at a house with no.number registered at Borwin, Sriracha, Chonburi. He had been hiding most of the week until the police arrested him when he returned to his home.

The suspect assured the media that there is nobody behind this crime. (Click on the VDO clip to read the English Sub-title). The police returned him to Dongtan police station for further investigation and he awaits his court hearing.

Police Lieutenant General Asawin also reported that they will be take proceedings against both, Mr. Tinnagorn Meeglee ( the man who purchased the gun from the suspect) and Mr. Monton Boonmee (the owner of the motorbike).

We will bring you further developments as and when they happen on a daily basis.

[url]www.pattayadailynews.com/shownews.php?IDNEWS=0000002513[/url]

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Historien lugter langt vaek, og der kommer hele tiden flere nye oplysninger frem, der ikke passer sammen og som virker underlige.

Der foregaar ikke saa meget opklaringsarbejde som der gives udtryk for. Det er nok snarere en af de episoder, der skal begraves saa hurtigt og effektivt som muligt.

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hov hov bamsen.....kender mange politifolk rigtigt godt,de er skam osse gode til at drikke whisky..........

Claus