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Militærkup på vej i Thailand ? Thailand i undtagelsestilstand !
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| Locturian |
Lagt på d. 21/09-2006 07:29
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Thaksin har gjort sig selv mistænkelig mange gange, og har gjort sig selv yderst upopulær i middelklassen i Thailand. De fattige støtter ham, da han har gjort det muligt for dem at låne penge - Mod høje renter, naturligvis, som han selv skovler ned i lommen. Som det er blevet sagt før, man ved hvad man har, men man ved ikke hvad man får. Det kan hælde begge veje, men lad os da håbe, at der nu kommer en der vitterligt har et rent hjerte og som vil hjælpe Thailand, og ikke bare lægge penge i egen lomme. Thailænderne går generelt ikke særlig meget op i politik, og hvis Thaksin blev skudt i morgen, ville der nok ikke være det store optøj. Blev kongen der imod skudt (7-9-13 for at det ikke sker) skulle i se optøjer og tomult - Ja, kan slet ikke forestille mig hvordan det ville tage sig ud, de elsker den mand... Jeg afventer spændt hvem der bliver den nye leder hernede
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| Inger og Kim |
Lagt på d. 21/09-2006 09:00
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vil bare lige sige ham der er indsat midlertidligt til at styre thailand til høre det muslimske mindre tal ![]()
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| Locturian |
Lagt på d. 21/09-2006 09:09
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Lad os bare håbe at det bliver ULTRA midlertidigt!
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| paulsenp |
Lagt på d. 21/09-2006 12:27
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Som Per Stiv Øller sagde: "det er bananstatsagtigt og kan ikke accepteres". Og som lindegaard sagde om en anden person: "han er ikke kendt for at være den hurtigste knallert på molen". PSV har åbenbart ikke opdaget at Thailand har en stor produktion af bananer. Og hvis han ikke kan acceptere, hvad der er sket i Thailand, kan han jo gøre som tidligere set andre steder - send nogle danske soldater derned, så vi kan få styr på situationen
Peter
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Lagt på d. 21/09-2006 14:37
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Godt svar paulsen, og nu ser jeg oz poul nyrup har været ude med en kommentar omkring ungarn. |
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| tomu |
Lagt på d. 21/09-2006 19:45
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Det ser ud til at militæret indfører pressecensur... Der er en tilsvarende website/debatforum i Korat, hvor medlemmerne er blevet advaret om politisske indlæg.
Redigeret af falang yao d. 22/09-2006 00:29 |
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| Suk Rak Ning |
Lagt på d. 21/09-2006 20:01
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Ja der var noget der, hva' med at sende fregatten Jylland afsted, så kommer der sq ro på i landet. Tomu. Det lyder da lidt uhyggeligt det du skriver... Suk............
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| nicefarang |
Lagt på d. 21/09-2006 20:06
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Er det rigtigt at denne bog ikke kan ses hvis man bor i Thailand: http://www.amazon...37?ie=UTF8 Det er en bog der åbenbart er kritisk mod den thailandske konge |
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| falang yao |
Lagt på d. 22/09-2006 00:34
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tomu skrev: Det ser ud til at militæret indfører pressecensur... Der er en tilsvarende website/debatforum i Korat, hvor medlemmerne er blevet advaret om politisske indlæg. ![]() Det er måske allerede sket , siden er nok også "kuppet": http://www.koratf...com/board/ http://koratfaran...,15.0.html http://koratfaran...d,1.0.html M.v.h., M. Rasmussen Thailand-You are always on my mind, even when sometimes it's S. S. but D. D.
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| jens |
Lagt på d. 22/09-2006 00:49
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Og hvor langt regner de så med at de kommer med at cencurere internettet, da de får mere end almindeligt travlt hvis de skal spærre adgangen til sider placeret på servere udenfor Thailand hvor situationen bliver debatteret på engelsk og Thai. Så skal de da helt afbryde internettet ud af Thailand, og det tror jeg ikke Thailands økonomi vil have godt af. MVH Jens |
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| falang yao |
Lagt på d. 22/09-2006 09:28
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Muligvis "falsk alarm". Websiden Korat Falang er oppe at køre igen. M.v.h., M. Rasmussen
Thailand-You are always on my mind, even when sometimes it's S. S. but D. D.
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| Mads_T |
Lagt på d. 22/09-2006 09:45
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Today, 2006-09-22 08:48:20 Post #2 GEORGE Platinum Member Group: Admin Posts: 13,382 Joined: 2002-11-20 From: BKK & Hong Kong Member No.: 128 NOTE TO OUR MEMBERS: All media was today 2006-09-21 ordered by ICT to exercise censorship of any news critical of the coup-makers and the new military regime. Offenders face up to six months in jail, a fine of up to Bt10,000, or both. This also prohibit Thaivisa to publish such content. We kindly ask our members to refrain from posting sensitive political content. We reserve the rights to delete content that could be dangerous for the operation of our website. We have to do a bit of self-censorship here so we don't get into trouble. Thanks for your understanding. /Admin |
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| falang yao |
Lagt på d. 22/09-2006 13:07
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falang yao skrev: Muligvis "falsk alarm". Websiden Korat Falang er oppe at køre igen. M.v.h., M. Rasmussen ![]() OG DOG : Man får dette "makværk" når man klikker på NEWS : HTTP/1.1 200 OK Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 11:04:26 GMT Server: Apache/1.3.37 (Unix) mod_auth_passthrough/1.8 mod_log_bytes/1.2 mod_bwlimited/1.4 PHP/4.4.4 FrontPage/5.0.2.2635.SR1.2 mod_ssl/2.8.28 OpenSSL/0.9.7a X-Powered-By: PHP/4.4.4 Expires: Mon, 26 Jul 1997 05:00:00 GMT Cache-Control: private Pragma: no-cache Last-Modified: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 11:04:27 GMT Content-Encoding: gzip Vary: Accept-Encoding Connection: close Content-Type: text/html ?읹Wۈ??匮??䅣?s??\p4;oޜ9??նz?Ԛ-b9;???Kz5;֒]]]]?????:62;9??u5;f2;?tpy@?Ų?t? ???v5;g?(?a229;Ri8???p?g5;w7;u0;?rtX??+ީ? F??żJ?Z??_ؾ??酧??d6;???g?F??]PRJhٔb??μ?il9C䓳?KMr?^植k6 W??ηɩ?t5;L??]}???p\?? '활fn`E-?쑓ڃ??ݟ鍭ȋ ??tٳ{??䯅K?=a?$7?K?Yq鬏ӯ??xJ??,ض???u?wW>6t?&٥?ɐᖴ?քb?)ƺ糟dn?»PĤ???x?e9;??i58;=協??ri???N.?ܖ٭q7;???ִ?;?W??0jד但ݞ?Xq݉???Bt????c;???? ]?B졮蜟?ہd7;??ႯG?ĺ%t?w?袗XPXל?ʆNX|W!?Y??'*i??C?ᡇq7;??TT6?0??ԄtH?)???Vz7;?ۊ?չ瘴mǭقf??R?ľ?!???B?輆p+S?Q?lxWq??s{j0;?朒J?o` Ӯ:4;???琞?ݕ@e9;z8;??Ԥt.?!cWQj1;ӖEh????ԧ7,l Zs寜耹ؤ?u2;rQ튟ִ? ?ɚĖC?:] ȭ?A;T?h?)"????w??Ⴣ߁ :??O6??H?”.?Q?|b`?9?1??h95;????zc®?6?dU?H| F9???6?/?D@?%=?z^?(????p?줤 IKH 嬰l 4Gg2;?U6落?g8???m.흏\غArp4;0헗a^ܞuȽF?wS۲?4袵??@?뢹g7;?أ?]u?+?s4;?3c?ts8;?O}o??P #@v28;ە(6;'9u?? Mon det samme kan ske for DTW, forklarer måske "forbytningen" af ID mellem SUK og Tuktuk. M.v.h., M. Rasmussen
Redigeret af falang yao d. 22/09-2006 13:13 Thailand-You are always on my mind, even when sometimes it's S. S. but D. D.
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| nicefarang |
Lagt på d. 22/09-2006 14:07
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http://www.koratf... Står i Dallas, TX, Usa såvidt jeg kan se. Derfor kan vi i Danmark godt se siden. Men det er muligt at Thai regering kan blokere for thaiernes adgang til den. |
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| falang yao |
Lagt på d. 22/09-2006 14:41
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Hej Nicefarang, Ikke kun for thaiernes adgang . Kopien af Korat Farang jeg har lagt ind, er kopieret i DK, p.t. er siden igen "krypteret", for igen at blive OK om måske 15-30 min. Stod og læste denne tråd : http://koratfaran...580.0.html ,p.t. kl.14.42 kan siden ikke læses. Da jeg skulle læse den næste tråd, var det umuligt. M.v.h., M. Rasmussen
Redigeret af falang yao d. 22/09-2006 14:46 Thailand-You are always on my mind, even when sometimes it's S. S. but D. D.
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| somkid |
Lagt på d. 26/09-2006 06:42
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rinpoche skrev: mht kronprinsen går der vedholdende rygter om at han har pådraget sig en sygdom der ikke just er køn. Så har jeg vist ikke sagt for meget. mvh rinpoche lol, det har jeg ogsaa hoert! dengang troede jeg ikke saa meget paa det, ingen andre havde hoert om det...Det ville godt nok vaere lidt af et antiklimaks hvis han blev konge... somkid |
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Lagt på d. 27/10-2006 16:47
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EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW Sonthi told Thaksin he would stage a coup General Sonthi Boonyaratglin, left, chairman of the Council for National Security, plays in a friendly football match between the Defence Ministry and the former national soccer team at Army Headquarters yesterday. He was joined by former Thai Rak Thai Pa For the first time, general reveals the inside story of how the regime was toppled At last, the story behind that unique part of the "first announcement" by the September 19 coup leaders - "We are sorry for the inconvenience"- can be told. Aside from the need to pacify a stunned public, it owed as much to one of General Sonthi Boonyaratglin's personal habits. "It's in my nature to apologise to people - my tennis partners, even my subordinates - for even tiny little things," the head of the Council for National Security told Nation Group editors in an exclusive interview on Tuesday. The light-hearted revelation led to more serious ones: He drafted most of the coup announcements by himself, starting early in the afternoon of that fateful day. When most drafts were ready, he became worried about their legal aspects and someone recommended Meechai Ruchuphan, who was immediately contacted and picked up from his home that night to help. "It was the first time I talked to him," Sonthi said of the man who was elected president of the interim National Legislative Assembly on the day of the interview. Sonthi said he prepared the drafts himself so that "nobody else would know what we were up to". The coup was plotted and carried out by eight key men, including Sonthi. It was originally intended to take place on September 20 because, with another major anti-Thaksin rally planned for that day, the collaborators could repeat the "Portuguese example", in which military mutiny and anti-government uprising complement each other. But having considered risk factors, the plan was moved up to September 19, when Thaksin was still in New York. According to Sonthi, only four top commanders knew the entire picture of the plan. But the other four executed their jobs well. "Each of us took care of our own piece of the jigsaw, which fell into place nicely at the end," he said. One significant piece of the jigsaw was the role of the Special Forces from Lop Buri who provided the coup leaders with much-needed combat experience, loyalty and allegiance. "Faith and trust among men at arms doesn't come easily. It goes back a long time," he said. His words may have carried a hint of scorn for Thaksin Shinawatra, whose "close ties with Class 10" failed to produce significant resistance to the coup. The provincial troops were told to move into the capital at midnight on September 19, to avoid traffic complications. But at 8pm, even men on the street were talking about an imminent coup. "We couldn't cope with the news leaks, so I decided to move up the schedule," he said. In the early evening, Sonthi was in contact with the national police to ensure major units stayed put and cooperated with the coup leaders. Contrary to what many believed, Sonthi said the coup was not an urgent measure mooted just a couple of days earlier. However, he was adamant the Thaksin camp was also scheming to create violence on September 20, so as to enforce a State of Emergency. "The State of Emergency would have given the government a pretext to remove me because I wouldn't have obeyed any order to use force against Thai people," he said. During the two-hour interview, the CNS chief revealed tales of mistrust between him and the former prime minister. The general disclosed that during their recent visit to Burma, shortly before the coup, he had instructed his men to sneak a gun into the C-130 plane so, if the need arose, he could protect himself. Asked what made him do that and what he thought Thaksin was plotting, Sonthi said: "I don't know. I was just being alert. On the plane, I sat near the entrance to the cockpit, where I could know quickly if something was about to happen. I had been told to wear my uniform but I wore a suit which better covered what I wanted to cover." The level of Thaksin's trust in Sonthi must have been similarly low. After all, according to Sonthi, the ousted prime minister was given clear warnings of what was coming, long before the coup. The CNS head recalled a time when Thaksin was regularly tongue-in-cheek about transferring top commanders to the Prime Minister's Office. It was then that he asked Sonthi: "Will you stage a coup?" Thaksin was taken aback when Sonthi replied: "I will." Sonthi did not elaborate on the exchange, which took place during Thaksin's lunch with armed forces' leaders at Air Force headquarters. But, apparently, Thaksin was less than pleased with reponses from the other top commanders, as well. The embattled prime minister sparked a public controversy afterwards by claiming an "influential figure beyond the scope of the Constitution" was plotting to overthrow him. At the same time, military sources said he had further alienated himself from the armed forces with certain "highly controversial" remarks. Sonthi said it was then that Thaksin asked him again whether he was plotting to overthrow him. "I told him my answer remained the same," Sonthi said. http://www.nation...017271.php |
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