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| Payanak |
Lagt på d. 19/11-2010 11:55
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http://www.thaivi...n-bangkok/ Myndighederne har fundet hundredevis af døde fostre og nu senest 1000. De har ikke været i alle rum i templet endnu. |
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Lagt på d. 19/11-2010 12:01
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Ja det er da forfærdeligt at man ikke tillader abort i thailand, kun de rigeste har muligheden, eller hvis der er fare for moren (eller moren har mange penge) eller pga. en voldtægt. |
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| thaikurt1 |
Lagt på d. 19/11-2010 13:18
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Man må forvente at i Pattaya bliver der fortaget mange udlovlig abort om året på grund af sexhunger mænd ikke ønsker at bruge noget. Har en unge pige i familie som fik en udlovlig abort ikke fordi hun bliv voldtaget med fordi pige gjorte uden at beskytter sig hun var på det tidspunkt 14 år og det er selv om skole oplyser de unge at bruge kondomer. At man ikke for længe siden har lov om at man kan få lave lovlig abort i et som thailand er ikke til at forstå. |
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| b_j3ns3n |
Lagt på d. 19/11-2010 17:51
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Erfarent medlem ![]() Antal indlæg: 1899 |
ja konen sad lige og læste det for mig.. http://www.thaira...sea/128337 Når en fremmed bor som gæst i jeres land, må I ikke udnytte ham eller hende. Den fremmede, der bor som gæst hos jer, skal være som en af landets egne, og du skal elske ham eller hende som dig selv
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| rinpoche |
Lagt på d. 19/11-2010 18:15
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Der hævdes at fostrene ikke var blevet brændt, fordi ovnene var i uorden...... i over et år..... Prøv at læs lidt om Guman Thong กุมารทอง. Med dette i baghovedet gør det ikke den aktuelle sag mere "spiselig". Dette var givetvis bagtanken ved at beholde fostrene, personlig vinding! http://www.dansk-...ad_id=7911 http://teakdoor.c...nman_thong The first written mention of the Gunman Thong is in Sunthorn Phu's "The Story of Khun Phaen and Khun Chang". The story is set in Ayutthaya about 500 years ago and was well known as an oral legend before being written down in the 19th century. Khun Phaen was a warrior hero who required a powerful spirit to protect him in battle. His Mia Noi, Bua Klee, died while still pregnant. Normally at that time people were cremated shortly after death, but women who died in childbirth were buried with special ceremonies in order to stop their ghosts wandering. The ghost of a woman who died in childbirth, Phee Tai Tong Klom, is especially ferocious and greatly feared. K. Phaen dug up the corpse of Bua Klee and extracted the foetus and took it directly to the Bot of a nearby temple to prepare it for the ritual which would capture it's spirit and make it serve him. The body of the foetus must be baked dry before the spirit will re-enter it. K. Paen prepared the ritual, it is still performed in almost exactly the same way today. He took consecrated wood to make a bed for the corpse, lit three candles, and laid the corpse on the bed. He placed yantras on the body, a Vishnu Yan on its head, another on its belly, a royal yan under the corpse, and a Dharani yan on the ground. He took sai sin, sacred white thread, and wrapped it around the bed and the corpse tio keep malign influences away. The ghost of the mother was prevented from entering the temple as the strongest ghosts are forbidden from entering sacred places. He set posts at each corner of the bed and placed scared flags on each post. Taking consecrated wood he lit a fire and carefully moved the foetus so that it would bake slowly and dry in the heat of the fire. To bring the spirit back to the body he recited mantras throughout the night, just as dawn broke the foetus, now dried to a golden brown colour rose from the bed and spoke to Khun Phaen. He declared himself willing to obey any command K. Phaen gave him. Khun Phaen named him Guman Thong, the Golden Boy. Today few Guman Thong are made from real foetuses although some monks/magicians will still do so for a hefty fee. Luang Por Tim of Wat Lahanrai made Guman Thong from human ashes until quite recently but was made to stop as it was seen as immoral. There was a recent newspaper article about a Cambodian man who killed a pregnant woman to get a foetus for this purpose and a well known Thai black magic practioner, filmed himself making a Guman Thong from a fetus, after this practitioners arrest for fraud the film he made was shown on Thai TV last year. Most are now made from wood or metal and have the appearance of a topknot-wearing little bit dressed in traditional Thai style. The spirit inside must still be the spirit of a little boy and normally the maker of the Guman Thong will petition Phya Mutjarai, the King of Death for a soul to occupy the Golden Boy. The soul of the child must be well fed and cared for and the owner must perform several daily rituals and chants to ensure that the spirit does not turn against him. As the spirit is the spirit of a human child it is subject to the laws of Karma and rebirth. At some time the child will be reborn and the spirit will need to be set free. It's an act of great merit to release the spirit of the Golden Boy at the right time and there are a series of rituals for doing this. Keeping the spirit imprisoned is a heinous act but many people still do it. Only a few monks know the mantras required to imprison the spirit in a Guman Thong although there are many fakes. A genuine Guman Thong maker can show the lineage of teacher who taught him. The most respected Kuman Thong makers of recent times are LP Hon of Wat petchaburi, LP Boon of Wat Klan Bangkaew, A. Yaem and LP Tae Kongtong of Wat Samnam, A. sakorn and LP Tim of Wat Lahanrai, and LP Poon of Wat Pailom. |
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| AL 48 |
Lagt på d. 20/11-2010 10:29
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Forarget?-nej. Hvorfor dog indføre fri abort?-Så går det jo bare som her i DK, hvor mange unge bruger det som prævention, eller tager en "fortrydelsespille". Og hvorfor dog fratage munkene en rimelig god "indtægt"? Hvad med den katolske kirke, der er kraftigt imod både prævention og abort?-i hvert fald officielt. Mon ikke også de "hjælper" en falden kvinde i ny og næ? Hvad med de hemmelige gange mellem munke-og nonneklostre her i DK,-hvad mon de blev brugt til?- Og hvad mon skete med "resultaterne"?-Det var jo ikke kun helligånden hver gang. Så det i BKK kan hverken forundre eller forarge mig. Det er da bedre at kvinderne kommer til rimeligt øvede personer, frem for at de forsøger sig selv. |
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| TG950 |
Lagt på d. 20/11-2010 11:29
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Erfarent medlem ![]() Antal indlæg: 1670 |
igaar på TGN Nyhederne, kom det også frem at Bagkvinden også havde opfostret børn ved templet, der ikke var ønsket af moderen. en 10 års spjæld tur er ikke nok, livstid er bedre, for der er ikke nogen tvivl om at hun har gjort det for egen vindings skyld, og ikke for at hjælpe kvinder i nød. Redigeret af TG950 d. 20/11-2010 11:29 Den, der vil gøre drøm til virkelighed, må vågne op først. både store & små stavefejl kan forekomme ![]() livet forståes forlæns, leves baglæns. Brug ikke dagen på at se dig tilbage, Du skal alligevel ikke den vej..... Lev med de beslutninger du tager, også selv om andre ikke acceptere det Livet er som en bog, du kan ikke ændre de ting der allerede er skrevet, - men du kan starte et nyt kapittel.. |
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