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Forsumper Sukumvit Bangkok ?
Her taler vi ikke om klimaændringerne, men den natlige forsumpning der i de sidste par år er opstået efter midnat i nedre Sukumvit ( Soi 2-13).
I Bangkok Post denne søndag var der to artikler med en del fotos, om de triste kendsgerninger. Jeg kan ikke selv lægge artiklerne ind, men har sendt dem til DTW-John, og bedt ham lægge dem ind.
Der er opstået et væld af friluftsbarer når de faste forretninger lukker, og der er opstået organiseret narkohandel, fortrinsvis Nigerianere i Soi 3, og der er opstået en mafioso, der afkræver de piger der arbejder efter midnat, en "afgift" på 20.000 Bath om måneden. Mafia-bossen er en kendt person fra Iran. Der skal immer væk "knokles" som prostitueret, hvis man udover afgiften skal have lidt penge til overs. Der arbejder en masse piger fra de tidligere kommunistiske lande. Der har arbejdet nogle få i mange år, men nu spreder det sig. Alt dette kunne ikke lade sig gøre, hvis ikke politiet blev bestukket.
Det minder mig om Patpong (Silom) i midtfirserne, der blev så kriminelt, at rejsebureauerne advarede folk mod at tage derhen sent på natten.
Jeg har selv været een gang på Sukumvit efter midnat, og jeg blev flere gange antastet, og følte mig absolut ikke tryg. Jeg havde en anden gang besøg af en ven fra Jomtien, han blev strippet den første nat, for penge og visakort. Han skulle have været her 4 dage, men allerede den første morgen gik turen tilbage til Jomtien.
 
blume
Abekat
Det er rigtig nok, Sukhumvit har ændret sig meget, men vis man er stiv eller "glimter" for meget er det utrygt alle steder gælder Odense og Bangkok, Pattaya.
Jeg har aldrig følt mig utryg på Sukhumvit, og er der hver gang Jeg er i Thailand, 3 gange i år! Sidst for 2 måneder siden så er rimelig opdateret:
Venlig hilsen fra FynWink
blume
Redigeret af blume d. 29/12-2009 13:30
 
thamarai
ABEKATTEN skrev:
Her taler vi ikke om klimaændringerne, men den natlige forsumpning der i de sidste par år er opstået efter midnat i nedre Sukumvit ( Soi 2-13).
I Bangkok Post denne søndag var der to artikler med en del fotos, om de triste kendsgerninger. Jeg kan ikke selv lægge artiklerne ind, men har sendt dem til DTW-John, og bedt ham lægge dem ind.
Der er opstået et væld af friluftsbarer når de faste forretninger lukker, og der er opstået organiseret narkohandel, fortrinsvis Nigerianere i Soi 3, og der er opstået en mafioso, der afkræver de piger der arbejder efter midnat, en "afgift" på 20.000 Bath om måneden. Mafia-bossen er en kendt person fra Iran. Der skal immer væk "knokles" som prostitueret, hvis man udover afgiften skal have lidt penge til overs. Der arbejder en masse piger fra de tidligere kommunistiske lande. Der har arbejdet nogle få i mange år, men nu spreder det sig. Alt dette kunne ikke lade sig gøre, hvis ikke politiet blev bestukket.
Det minder mig om Patpong (Silom) i midtfirserne, der blev så kriminelt, at rejsebureauerne advarede folk mod at tage derhen sent på natten.
Jeg har selv været een gang på Sukumvit efter midnat, og jeg blev flere gange antastet, og følte mig absolut ikke tryg. Jeg havde en anden gang besøg af en ven fra Jomtien, han blev strippet den første nat, for penge og visakort. Han skulle have været her 4 dage, men allerede den første morgen gik turen tilbage til Jomtien.


Jeg læste godt artiklen i Bangkok Post igår, men jeg synes ikke, at det er så slemt. I øvrigt har jeg sjældent mere end et par tusinde på mig ad gange, men det er ligeså meget for at undgå at tabe for mange penge i en brandert.

Naturligvis undgår jeg negerne, men det gør jeg alle steder i Sydøstasien - ikke fordi jeg er racist, men fordi det er ret åbenlyst, hvad de lever af.

Nu kommer jeg der ikke så tit mere, men for ikke så lang tid siden kunne jeg godt komme på Sukhumvit efter kl. 01 og 03 om natten, fordi der var sjovest. Natuligvis skal man lige tænker over, hvem man snakker med.
/Andreas

Bangkok, Thailand


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Payanak
Jeg kommer ikke ret tit på nedre Sukhumvit sent om aftenen eller natten, men jeg kommer der dog med lange mellemrum. Jeg har lagt mærke til den voldsomme stigning i gade prostituerede. Gade barene betaler til politiet ved jeg.
Området er helt rigtigt forsumpet og får steder som Pattaya til at ligne noget man kan begynde at anbefale som en alternativ sikker destination Shock
Andre steder i Bangkok så som Patpong er heller ikke et sted for børn og jeg drømmer ikke om at sætte mine ben der igen.
Generelt er min personlige holdning, at Bangkoks sædvanlige turisterenklaver er fordærvede, og det går kun den forkerte vej i udviklingen.
 
Big-Viking
I mine øjne skal man holde sig væk fra den "forkerte" side af Sukhumvit, der mener jeg Soi 1 til 5. På den side starter det sjove på Soi 7 Wink Resten af Sukhumvit ligner mere eller mindre sig selv. Ja, politiet er ligeglade bare de får hvad der tilkommer dem. Sådan vil det altid være. Desværre.. Ja, hvad skal man gøre med alle de Øst -ludere og de "sorte" narko - mafiatyper.?? Svært uden politiet gider noget.
Redigeret af Big-Viking d. 29/12-2009 14:35
 
blume
Big-Viking
Har aldrig haft problemer der, spiser hver gang på den åbne plads før Soi 1, hvor de "lokale" kommer. Smile
Venlig hilsen fra Fyn
blume
Redigeret af blume d. 29/12-2009 14:40
 
Big-Viking
Ja, men i mine øjne så har området omkring Soi 1 til 5 altid været Araber og "bad area" ihverttilfælde siden jeg kom til Thailand første gang i 87.. Bare min mening.
 
blume
Big-Viking
Du har ret, men holder vi os på Sukhumvit, og ikke går ned af sidegaderne, syntes Jeg det er uden problemer også meget sent!
Venlig hilsen fra Fyn
blumeWink
Redigeret af blume d. 29/12-2009 15:25
 
rinpoche
Jeg fatter simpelthen ikke hvorledes de nigerianerne relativt uantastet kan udøve deres virke. (man har læst om lejlighedsvise crack downs)
Jeg kan huske fra mine allerførste besøg i bkk, hvorledes der var en enklave af nigerianere i nærheden af posthuset for enden af Khao San Road. Man følte sig hensat til Harlem eller Bronx.
Hvordan får de visum eller opholdstilladelse?
De får tilmed ikke visa extemption on arrival.
Dette skal ikke lyde som om jeg er racistisk, men generelt - meget generelt, indrømmet - er nigerianere bad news.



 
blume
Rinpoche
Kan kun give dig ret, utrolig mange af demAngry
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blume
 
sabai sabai
Nigerians in Thailand at the mercy of Mr. Henry Offor


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Sad
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Vil man ikke åbne sine øjne , må man jo åbne sin pung !
 
lols
Rin,
Dem der smører godt, kører normalt også bedre i Thailand, og pengene i det game er nok store nok til en del olie?

Det samme gælder nok de ulovlige gadebarer, russiske piger i Pattaya.

Visum kan også klares nemt her....
 
John
Her er de artikler fra Bangkokpost som ABEKATTEN omtaler i indlæg #1

Foreign prostitutes being targeted by extortion gang at hotel disco
• Published: 27/12/2009 at 12:00 AM
• Newspaper section: Spectrum
Extortion is also a big business and an entrenched part of the trade in sleaze that is flourishing in the Sukhumvit area of Bangkok late at night.
The main targets of the gangs are the many foreign prostitutes who ply their trade on the street and in the hotels around the lower end of Sukhumvit Road.
• Lower Sukhumvit Road: Sleazy street of shame
One particular gang specialising in extorting money from the foreign prostitutes is based in the discotheque of a medium-sized hotel in Soi 3.

BUSY NIGHT: On Soi 3 both foreign and local prostitutes do a brisk business.
The disco is frequented mainly by Iranian and Arab men and about 50 foreign prostitutes, mostly from Russia and Uzbekistan, who go there every night looking for customers.
This was revealed to Spectrum during a recent interview with a woman known only as Vazira, a freelance prostitute from Uzbekistan, and collaborated by her Russian friends. Several Thai prostitutes working in the area also confirmed the existence of the gang as well as other gangs.
They said most of the gang members come from Iran, Pakistan and Africa and are involved in a variety of crimes.
According to Ms Vazira, one of these gangs extorting money from the foreign prostitutes is led by a Syrian man who calls himself Basm. His accomplice and countryman Mahmood also works in the disco. The other members of his gang are from Iran and Pakistan. They target the foreign prostitutes working at the disco.
Ms Vazira said that prostitutes who have Thai pimps, who give them protection and assistance if they are arrested, are not targetted by the extortionists.
"The gang will do some background checking of a potential target before making an approach. They are very careful not to get into trouble with Thai people," Ms Vazira said before going on to describe what happened to her and many of the other girls who work at the disco and are forced to pay protection money to Basm.
"I had been going to that particular discotheque almost every night for several years and never had any problems until a few days ago when I was walking back to my apartment in Soi 5 at around 4am - after having one customer and returning to the club.
"Basm followed me, grabbed my arm outside the hotel and said: 'Hey, look at me. Sometimes when I see you in the club, I want to put you in jail,' he said in bad English. I answered: 'Why? Anyone can come to the disco. What is the problem? I don't understand you.'
"He replied: 'I want some money from you. If you refuse then you cannot work there anymore.'
"I said I don't have money to pay you. I am sending almost everything I make to my parents and children back home every morning, and he said: 'I don't care what you say, I want money.' Then I left, frightened of what will happen," Ms Vazira said.
"I told my friends about this incident and they said they also heard about Basm from other girls. They told me to pay, otherwise I wouldn't be able to work and he could cause me some trouble as well.
"The first time he didn't say how much money he wanted me to pay, but two days later he approached me again, this time at the entrance to the disco. He told me to pay him 20,000 baht every month, otherwise I couldn't enter. I would then lose my main income because I can make money there from the Iranians because I speak their language. They usually pay well and don't cause trouble. There is no other place like it in the area.
"I am sure that before Basm approached me he knew I had no pimp and I was making good money, otherwise he wouldn't ask for so much. That's why he picked on me. Maybe someone else was watching me all the time."
Ms Vazira said Basm is about 23, slim and dark. She had seen him in the disco for a couple of months, but didn't talk to him.
"Sometimes when he passed by, he only said to me 'how are you', as he did with the other girls.
"He is very friendly with Mr Kew, who is the Thai owner. I saw them often talking to each other.
"My friend told me that Kew pays Basm a salary and rent for his apartment in Soi 1, which he shares with Mahmood. Basm usually walks back home.
"When I saw Basm the first time, I knew he is not a good person. Why did I know? I was a nurse and used to work at the police hospital in Tashkent in Uzbekistan. We treated many drug addicts there, so I know everything about them, like what the symptoms are, what they look like and how they behave.
"Basm has all the symptoms. He also drinks whiskey and tequila. My friends told me Basm is indeed a drug addict and they are all afraid of him. He is a dangerous man.
"I saw Kew sitting and drinking with four to five Thai men in his club. The Thais were not looking for girls, only drinking, and then they left. I have been coming and going here for four years, so I know they must be policemen or Thai officials. Some wore safari jackets and black boots. I see Basm talking to them some time, but not for too long.
"I am afraid of him, especially when I walk back home. Maybe someone will hit me. I would like to call the police to check his room. Maybe he has some drugs there. I told my friends about this and asked them if they know some policemen who could search his apartment for drugs."
Ms Vazira did not say if she had paid Basm or intended to pay him, but her friends have now raised fears for her safety. Her mobile has now been switched off for days and searching for her proved fruitless.
Her friends haven't seen her for many days since she spoke to Spectrum. They are worried about her.


Bangkok's sleazy street of shame
Foreign and local prostitutes, African drug dealers and illegal bars selling alcohol have become part of the landscape in one of the busiest parts of Thailand's capital city
• Published: 27/12/2009 at 12:00 AM
• Newspaper section: Spectrum
It's been described by both Thais and foreigners as shameful, a disgrace and embarrassing. And those are the words we can print. One of the most popular areas in Bangkok, the lower end of Sukhumvit Road undergoes a rapid transformation late every night when most of the bars and clubs are closing.

MOBILE: In Soi 7, drinkers gather around a van-cum-bar,
It changes from being a popular shopping and entertainment area into one of the world's biggest open air flesh markets, where everything from girls to booze and illegal drugs are openly sold until the wee hours.
"You must come to see the place, especially after 2am when it degenerates into a total mess. Please go there and write what you have seen," one disgusted Thai who owns a shop in the area told Spectrum.
Our investigation, which included interviews, pictures and videos, some taken with concealed cameras, revealed some very disturbing facts and some blatant violations of the law. This disregard for the law is happening in this area night after night, and no one appears to be making a serious effort to stop it.
Sukhumvit Road would surely hold the world record for the most illegal bars in one place. For about 500 metres on the popular road - from Soi 2 to Soi 15 - Spectrum counted 37 mobile bars, more than 204 tables and 1,180 chairs last Friday at 3am.

SETTING UP: Sukhumvit Road just after 1am. The crowds arrive after 2am,
The second dubious world record could be for the largest number of ladyboys gathered in one place, with some serving drinks at the mobile bars, some just walking around alone, and others in groups on the footpath, shouting at passing foreigners: "I want to go with you."
Another fact that has surprised many visitors to the area is the large number of foreign prostitutes there searching for customers, as well as the local variety. The ever increasing number of foreign prostitutes do a brisk business in the nearby discotheques and coffee shops as well as on the street.
They come from about 16 countries - Africa, Asia, the Middle East or the former states of the Soviet Union - and have been joined recently by transvestites from other parts of Asia and the Middle East. This may not be a world record, but it is a first for this country.
There are also hundreds of African men in the area late at night, and they gather in many places along the lower end of Sukhumvit Road, with some offering illegal drugs to foreigners, mainly in sois 3 and 13. This type of open drug dealing on the street is unprecedented in Thailand. Many of these African men are also involved in other illegal scams, especially ones relating to the US dollar. They also fight each other regularly on the streets, usually over business conflicts or over women.
Most foreigners holidaying in Thailand with their families only see the temples, enjoy the country's natural beauty and its beaches and are in bed by midnight. But if they ventured out onto the lower end of Sukhumvit Road late at night, they would get a very different, and negative, impression of the country.

LIGHTS OUT: Nana Plaza in Soi 4 goes dark at 1am, but the action continues until 2am,
Many of the foreign men who frequent this area late at night come from countries in the Middle East, where most of what is available on the streets of Bangkok is banned, illegal, or both.
Most are on holidays and don't have to wake up for work early in the morning, so they stay up all night looking for entertainment.
And when most of the mainstream entertainment venues close at 2am, they move to the many small mobile bars that spring up after hours on Sukhumvit Road. The late night mobile bars started appearing on Sukhumvit Road after a change in the closing hours laws several years ago.
The changes, some of which involved earlier closing hours, cut the income of a lot of entertainment venues in the area.
One foreigner who has owned bars in Soi Cowboy for many years told Spectrum. "When that guy in the government [former Interior Minister Purachai Piumsombun] changed the closing hours back in 2001, making us close earlier, we really suffered, and so did our staff," he said.
"When the bars had to shut earlier, we lost that important last busy hour of trading, and our profits went down. The customers headed off looking for some illegal place to drink after hours where there were girls available, and they soon found it on the footpath on Sukhumvit Road. The girls who worked in bars like mine no longer had the late night venues like the Thermae to go to in the hope of finding a customer after work.

DIRTY: Bars set up among the night’s rubbish on the lower end of Sukhumvit Road.
"After they closed the bars early, the girls just took to the streets. At least when they work in bars like mine, there are some controls and regulations, like regular health checks.
"What really annoyed me and most of the other bar owners was that we had to stop selling alcohol, while the other unlicensed places that sprung up on the streets can stay open all night.
"These days it seems more relaxed and the closing time has slipped back to 2am. People used to fly from Singapore to Bangkok for the nightlife, but now it's the opposite way around. Singapore now has bars that open until the early hours.
"All the early closing and social order campaign did was to turn the lower end of Sukhumvit Road into a slum. That's what it is. Now we still have to close at a certain time, we still have to have licences and face regular checks by the police, but there's no checks or anything on these mobile bars. They wheel them out and put on the footpath on Sukhumvit late at night every night."
His comments were echoed by Thai bar and pub owners who operate businesses along the lower end of Sukhumvit Road. One man who runs a well-known night spot that has been open for 40 years near Soi 15 said: "Before, I was able sell drinks until 6am. Everyone was inside, drinking and happy. Then in 2001 the government started to impose regulations and orders. For a short time we had to close at midnight, and this made things even worse because after midnight everyone moved to the street. The problems began and continues to now, as you can see.
"We are licenced to sell alcohol, we pay taxes to the state, we don't allow under-age people to enter, we close according to the law, but we are losing money and going out of business because the mafia can sell all night on the street and undercut our prices. Their only overheads are the corruption money they pay someone. I know who it is, but won't tell you for your own good.
"If Purachai could inspect Sukhumvit at night now - something he used to enjoy - he would most probably commit suicide. It is hard to imagine that this has been going on for years without anyone in the government making some serious efforts to stop it as laws and regulations are openly violated. What is happening on the street is a real shame for this country. Someone should take some drastic action."
Pornchai, who has worked as a waiter at this well established bar, added: "I have been working here for 36 years, but now is the worst time ever. The mobile bars, all illegal, are taking our business by selling all night and cutting our prices. They can sell drinks cheaper because they only spend money on bribes to some officials. Their expenses are therefore much less than ours."
He told Spectrum about one mobile bar frequented by Africans in Soi 13 where he said drugs are sold openly and where there are fights between the African dealers almost every night. About 20 Africans, some well dressed, were drinking there at 11pm when Spectrum visited. When one photo was taken, two Thai men immediately appeared and threatened the photographer, ordering him to leave, despite his valid argument that the footpath and road are public property where anyone can take a photo.
The same problem arose when taking pictures of the mobile bars. One bar owner who was selling alcohol on the footpath opposite Nana Post Office near Soi 4 appeared extremely irritated and shouted: "I control the footpath here. I own it. Get out!"
Later that night when Spectrum went back to the bar on Soi 13, about 80 Africans were drinking there, one group of them standing on the corner, attempting to chat with passing foreigners. Several foreigners told us the Africans were offering some shady business propositions and also drugs.
''They asked me how much money I have and how much I could invest with them,'' said a man from Switzerland who did not want to be identified. Other Europeans said they were approached the same way.
One Thai vendor selling clothes near Soi 7 said: ''I have been selling here for almost 20 years but have never seen such corruption and disregard for the law as it is now. These mobile bars started to pop up a few years ago and now there are almost 40. Each pays someone 2,000 baht per day to stay open. I pay someone else only 1,000 baht for my space.
''Many Thai and foreign prostitutes frequent the area late at night, the Africans fight each other every night, especially in Soi 13. They sell marijuana, ice and cocaine. Many have no visas. They have a boss who is very powerful and controls many illegal activities, including the drug business. He knows some high-ranking Thai officials and is also well connected to his embassy.

SECOND SHIFT: Regular street vendors pack their belongings as the bars move in late on Sukhumvit Road.
''Not many policemen are seen here, except when the Africans fight, and then they will come. You will never see a high ranking policeman or other officials coming for an inspection. I suspect they don't know what is going on here. In the past, police would arrest prostitutes who were looking for customers on the footpath, but not any more. That's why there are so many now.
''We can't blame only foreigners for these vices, but our people who allow it as well. The press doesn't publish much about this problem. Our culture and dignity are destroyed here in front of us,'' he said.
Another vendor selling hats in the next stall added: ''All the Thai people here don't like it, but what can we do? How will this place look in the next five years? Are we going to become an African country? What are they coming here for? How can they stay here for a long time?''
This last question was partially answered by two Africans who approached the Spectrum team outside one mobile bar in Soi 3. One, who spoke perfect English, claimed to be a former pirate from Somalia who made a lot of money and came here to start a business. The other said he came from Sudan. He claimed to have been associated with terrorists in Sudan and said he had to leave.
''We do everything, except drugs,'' the Somali said, with his Sudanese friend agreeing at the start of our 10-minute conversation. However, at the end of our chat, and after all their business propositions were rejected, they claimed to know someone who sells drugs, for either personal use or wholesale.
The Somali said they had to be careful after the police arrested several Africans at a small lane called ''Double White Hourse'' off Soi 3 on Dec 12. He was referring to a raid made by the Narcotic Suppression Bureau and other agencies.
A visit to the lane, which is usually crowded with Africans after 10pm, found it almost deserted.
Several high-ranking officials from various embassies who live near the soi told Spectrum that while walking in the area at night they had been approached by African men who, after a short conversation, offered them drugs. This approach shocked many of the long-term embassy staff, as this had never happened in the past.
Back on Sukhumvit, the many foreign prostitutes, mainly from the former Soviet Union, were doing a brisk business, with dozens parading in provocative clothing from about 11.30pm on outside the coffee shop of a big hotel on Soi 3, which is their starting point before they move on to discos and other late night entertainment venues.
Several taxis were parked outside this hotel and often after the driver received a phone call, he would enter the coffee shop and get one or two of the foreign working girls and drive them to customers who stay in some of the big hotels in the district.
One taxi driver said the foreign girls charge 2,000-3,000 baht for a short time and 5,000-10,000 baht for an all night session. The taxi driver said he had an agreement with the staff of several big hotels, who call him when a guest wants ''company''. He and the hotel staff receive 500 baht each in commission.
During a conversation with several foreign working girls at the coffee shop, they revealed how they can stay in Thailand for many months, some even years.
They pay 5,000 baht each to a nearby travel agency which organises visa runs to Vientiane in Laos. One woman who had just returned from such a trip said the agency provided four vans which carried about 40 women. ''They collected our passports after arriving in Vientiane, where we spent one night in a cheap hotel, and returned them the next day with a Thai tourist visa. We can't get these visas in Penang [Malaysia] or in Phnom Penh [Cambodia],'' she said.
A ladyboy who was serving drinks at a mobile bar near Soi 11 said she and some of the other girls did not get paid to work at the bar, but used it to find customers to sleep with. However, several local prostitutes claimed that most of the ladyboys only pick up customers to steal their money.
The mobile bar business is well organised. The bars, chairs and tables are stored in many places along Sukhumvit Road during the day. The owners decorate the bars with colourful lights and have speakers blaring music. Bottles of alcohol are openly displayed. It takes only a few minutes to set one up.
However, some bars deliberately switch off the lights over the tables where their customers are drinking. Most of these bars move into their places after the street vendors leave about midnight. They become the second shift on the street.
As for hygiene, there is none. There are no public toilets in the area. Some customers relieve themselves where ever possible, making the whole area dirty and smelly. One enterprising local businessman in Soi 13 uses a pick-up truck with a mobile toilet on the back and charges five baht per person.
One friendly policeman from the local station who has been working in the area for many years was reluctant to say anything at first, but later opened up: ''Ten years ago it was very hard to open a bar, but now they are everywhere, not only the mobile ones.'' He admitted that they are all illegal, but said his job was only to look after the traffic.
The policeman also mentioned that the punishment for selling liquor without a licence _ exactly what these mobile bars do every night _ is only a small fine not exceeding 500 baht for those selling local brews and not more than 2,000 baht for those selling imported brands.
''In case the bar gets raided again, the penalty would be same. Maybe if the punishment was higher, the bars might disappear. In a paradox, the ones who do possess a liquor licence and sell alcohol after midnight, when arrested, could face up to two years in jail or a fine not exceeding 4,000 baht or both, and their liquor licence could be suspended,'' the policeman said.
''Considering the workload that the police have every night with more serious crimes, there's really no time to tackle this type of offence,'' he said.
After paying a fine, the bar can reopen, and if they are arrested again, even on same night, the penalty is the same.
''Maybe if the punishment was harsher, the bars might disappear,'' he said.

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rinpoche
Interessante links, Sabai og John. Tak for dem.
Hvor er Taksin når man behøver ham? Og her taler jeg om narkotika.
Pusherne ville få en "hot day in Hell" !

 
Payanak
Nigerians in Thailand at the mercy of Mr. Henry Offor

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Interessante links, Sabai og John. Tak for dem.
Hvor er Taksin når man behøver ham? Og her taler jeg om narkotika.
Pusherne ville få en "hot day in Hell" !

Ja det er faktisk et interessant link. Særligt kommentarene under artiklen, som åbenlyst er skrevet af de nigerianske pushere, finder jeg meget tankevækkende.
 
rinpoche
Samtidig undrer det mig såre, at thailændere overhovedet vil indgå i nogen form for forretningssammenhæng med disse typer.
Payanak, du kender også historien omkring thailænderen der går en tur i junglen og møder hhv. en kobra og en Kaek/inder.
Hvilken en vil han slå først med sin stok?
Erstat Khaek med Negro og resultatet er det samme.
Men som så ofte set før, money rules. Og så kan selv fordomme blive tilsidesat.
 
Big-Viking
Dem der skal oprethold orden er ligeglade med hudfarve og religion, så længe de får %... Vel også en lidt slap regering i mine øjne der ikke kan sørge for at der kan være "ordenlige" myndigheder der kan få ordnet dette problem. Så, ja Thaksin er savnet. Mange ting er excaleret siden han blev fjernet.
 
rinpoche
rinpoche skrev:
Samtidig undrer det mig såre, at thailændere overhovedet vil indgå i nogen form for forretningssammenhæng med disse typer.
Payanak, du kender også historien omkring thailænderen der går en tur i junglen og møder hhv. en kobra og en Kaek/inder.
Hvilken en vil han slå først med sin stok?
Erstat Khaek med Negro og resultatet er det samme.



Okay, men så spørg din kone Wink
 
Payanak
Hmmm...ved ikke om det var et svar fra mig du ikke kunne vente på, men i så fald kan jeg bare sige jai yen yen Wink
Men vi er da helt enige om at (nogen)thaier anser udlændinge(i alle farver) som værende noget kryp Grin
 
sabai sabai
Mener at politiet , for ca. 12-15 år siden "fangede" flere hundrede Nigerianer , i området omkring Khao San Road og puttede dem på et fly til Nigeria.

Nogen som husker det ?
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Vil man ikke åbne sine øjne , må man jo åbne sin pung !
 
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