PL skrev:
Hvordan ser en korrupt kyllling egentlig ud?

"Tager sin straf"!

Dømt af en korrupt domstol, hvorfor f.... sku' han da respektere det?

PL

fckguld skrev:
du plejer da citere alt og alle omkring thailand og du plejer da have lidt mellem ørene er det ikke gået op for dig at manden har overtrådt regler omkring eje af selskaber som medlem af regering . bestikkelse i stor stil - altså ham kyllingen

Announcement Number 20/2008 People’s Alliance for Democracy On “New Politics”.

The People’s Alliance for Democracy (PAD) has been gathering continuously to protect the Constitution to prevent it from being used as a tool in laundering the wrongdoings of Thaksin Shinawatra and his associates, to eradicate the Thaksin regime, to chase out the proxy government, and to pave the way for new politics in the Kingdom of Thailand.

For unity and clarity of the rally, the PAD wants to announce the direction of new politics for the Kingdom of Thailand as follows:

1. The current political system should be condemned as electioneers monopolize electoral constituencies and businesspeople. Vote-buying and electoral fraud exist through using local influence to threaten the public. State authority is abused and money is used to win elections at all costs on the weakness and corrupt activities of some Election Commission officials, who cannot ensure a fair and just election.

With elections riddled with fraud and vote-buying, Thai politics has turned into “money politics.” Politicians have to pay back to their sponsors through corruption, violation of the law, and violation of the oath they gave to His Majesty the King when they took office. They sell their country as was seen from how this administration violated the Constitution, as ruled by the Constitution Court, in signing the joint communiqué which allowed Cambodia to register Preah Vihear Temple as a World Heritage Site by itself. They seek benefits for themselves and their cronies and abuse the Parliamentary system by utilizing their majority vote to support the ruling coalition in unethical endeavors, turning Parliament into a dictatorship of capitalism.

As most politicians in the system strive to seek benefits for themselves and their cronies, the checks and balance system from the judiciary, the media, and the public are damaged, destroyed, and threatened.

The judiciary system has been damaged and destroyed through the transfer of state officials to put politicians’ associates into power. The Administrative and Legislative branches have jointly tried to amend the Constitution to lower the authority of the judiciary and the checks and balance system. Corrupt politicians try to bribe the judiciary system. The media sees interference. People who are exercising their rights to gather against the government have been injured by the police and thugs backed by the government. All of this contribute to the efforts to destroy the country’s checks and balance system to cover up the evil of politicians. Attempts also exist to lessen the power of the monarchy for absolute control by politicians.

Even if politicians resign or a House dissolution occurs, Thai politics will continue in this vicious cycle if no efforts are made to reform it.

For a sustainable future of the country, the PAD sees that it is necessary for new politics in the Kingdom of Thailand.

2. New politics for the Kingdom of Thailand is true democracy under a Constitutional Monarchy with the following goals:

2.1 Support for good people to manage the country and blocking of evil people from coming to power so all sectors of society are ensured justice.

2.2 The public must be allowed participation in politics. New politics will not only see politicians elected from constituencies but will see representation from all sectors, such as representatives from different vocations and groups. This will be designed by a Constitution that sees public participation to ensure a true democracy under a Constitutional Monarchy.

3. To ensure that new politics is introduced in the Kingdom of Thailand, the PAD announces the following stance:

3.1 The PAD sees its first goal as chasing out this proxy government that has sold the country. It is not necessary for negotiations with any group that sees otherwise.

3.2 We support changes to the current political situation on the condition that political reform must happen and the public must be allowed participation in politics. There must also be sincere efforts to solve the evil in the Thaksin regime through the judiciary system.

The proposal on the PAD stage of a 70 : 30 ratio of public representatives to elected representatives is merely an example of how the old-style politics should be replaced and is open to discussions. It is not a fixed formula advocated by the PAD. We are ready for a discussion from all sides on designing new politics and will respect the majority decision for new politics that is ethical, moral, and more representative of the varied social sectors to go in line with the lifestyles and culture of Thailand but still upholding democracy under a Constitutional Monarchy.

With deep respect,
People’s Alliance for Democracy
Monday, September 08, 2008
At Government House

En rivaliserende byelite i Bangkok, som ledes af mediekongen Sondhi Limthongkul og Bangkoks tidligere guvernør Chamlong Srimuang, er forbitrede modstandere af Thaksin-dynastiet og har formået at mobilisere store dele af hovedstadens middelklasse til støtte for deres sag.

De har organiseret sig i Folkealliancen for Demokrati (PAD), men den form for demokrati, de hævder at kæmpe for, ligger temmelig langt fra den demokratimodel, vi kender fra Europa. De vil nemlig gøre op med principppet om en-mand, en-stemme. De regner ikke landbefolkningen for noget.

bkk skrev:
Abhisit burde naturligvis udskrive valg, så befolkningen kan godkende ham eller forkaste ham.

Det der på overfladen ligner et demokrati i dyb krise, er måske snare direkte omvendt, thaierne har igennem de sidste 3 år diskuteret mere politik end det vi har gjort i de sidste 20 år i Danmark. Demokratiet er levende i thailand, mens magthaverne lever deres korrupte liv bag murene, går folk på gaden og kæmper med en overbevisning for deres sag, på en måde vi ikke har set i Europa i generationer.
Jeg håber dog at de to fraktioner kan blive enig, inden alt for længe, ellers kunne det ende med at thailand brækker over i flere dele, i en Lanna og Esan del, en Ayuttaya del og Patani del i Sydthailand.

De vil nemlig gøre op med principppet om en-mand, en-stemme. De regner ikke landbefolkningen for noget.

natty skrev:
Der er jo løbet meget vand i søen siden 2008. Jeg tror meget har ændret sig siden den gang. Og faktisk tror jeg ikke at 70-30 er Abhisits politik.
Faktisk synes jeg han har klaret situationen ganske godt, i stedet for at tale ned til folk har han gjort det modsatte.
Han er valgt af parlamentet på lovlig vis. Før han kom til var det den anden side som havde flertallet i parlamentet, "de røde" havde faktisk flertallet i to omgange i parlamentet efter at militæret gav magten tilbage.
Jeg synes at NOGLE af"de røde" er kommet med så mange trusler, bla. om at brænde Bangkok ned, hvis de ikke får deres vilje, at de virker ret sindsyge. Samtidig virker det ret skræmmende at deres ledere har vendt sig til at bruge woodo, blodet, i deres sidste handlinger. Kan et land regeres af sådan nogle.?
Jeg tror at deres krav om mere ligelig fordeling af goderne, bedre sygesikring, uddannelse osv. er støttet af de fleste thailændere, ligegyldigt hvor de kommer fra. men jeg tror til gengæld at Thaksins politiske tid er ovre.
Det er så let at komme med punchlines og prøver derfor at afstå for at gøre det.
Men jeg tror mange thailændere siger, well der skal være valg senest i 2011, lad den nuværende PM vise hvad han dur til og så tage det valg på det tidspunkt.
Det jeg skriver her er bla baseret på hvad mine thaivenner siger, og nej de er ikke fra Bangkok, men fra Chiang Mai og Lampang. Den mest arrige mod de røde er faktisk risbonde.

En ædruelig annalyse af Flemming Ytzen:
http://politiken....924357.ece

PL skrev:

Konfucianisme, militær, autoritetstro, loyalitet mod magten (pengene!) osv. - det bliver sgu' svært at ændre lige foreløbig.

PL